I think because the WT don't put high importance on the deceased person at the services and it’s all about the info commercial sell they seem to not put a high importance on the persons remains. My dub brother holds no importance on them and seems to think my dad’s remains should just be forgotten but I am thinking that his remains should be respected and memorialized in some special way. My dub sister thinks more along my line. That is why I ask if there is any borg policy on this matter.
William Penwell
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What is WT policy on a persons deceased ashes?
by William Penwell ini ask a question on my other post but i think it got lost.
what is wt policy on what is approprate way of handling a person that is deceased ashes?
the reason why i ask is because we are having a family disagreement of how to handle my fathers ashes..
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If they stop printing the yearly totals, will they stop tracking hours?
by Splash inso if the soc stop printing the yearly totals in the yearbook as many are predicting, does this mean there is no longer any need to keep track of each individuals hours?.
will this mean the end of our monthly reports?.
*** km 12/02 p. 8 par.
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William Penwell
or lsitening to the dribble in mags. It's just something to keep them busy. Serves no purpose as the GB is well aware of the fact that the door to door activities bring in a small minority of people into that organization.
It is just another tool to try and guilt the RF and keep them in line. I recall as a young dub it was never good enough. If you put in 5 hours then you can do 10, if you put in 10 hours then you can do 15 etc.
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What is WT policy on a persons deceased ashes?
by William Penwell ini ask a question on my other post but i think it got lost.
what is wt policy on what is approprate way of handling a person that is deceased ashes?
the reason why i ask is because we are having a family disagreement of how to handle my fathers ashes..
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I ask a question on my other post but I think it got lost. What is WT policy on what is approprate way of handling a person that is deceased ashes? The reason why I ask is because we are having a family disagreement of how to handle my fathers ashes.
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If they stop printing the yearly totals, will they stop tracking hours?
by Splash inso if the soc stop printing the yearly totals in the yearbook as many are predicting, does this mean there is no longer any need to keep track of each individuals hours?.
will this mean the end of our monthly reports?.
*** km 12/02 p. 8 par.
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William Penwell
It is the only thing that the borg can hold over the heads of the RF dubs. If they stopped making the RF dubs report their time they would have a tough time getting any of them to bang on doors.
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Conversation with my JW co-worker!
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good day...so this is the conversation i had with a co-worker of mine i mentioned in an earlier thread...shes a jw and doesnt know that i was associated with the jws before and that im a fader.
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William Penwell
Hey Kool Jo, it sounds like she is getting some field service time in at work.
You know she was counting the time.
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My Fathers Memorial Service
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Update, I am on the phone with my dub brother and he has some difficult with my fathers ashes. I just told him that I would like to respect my fathers remains and deal with them accordingly. For people that claim they don't fear death they sure are afraid of it. I think the reason is because as a dub we were never made to come to terms with our own mortality. We were never supposed to die in this system so we never had to face our own mortality. Then when a death in a dub family happens they do not know how to deal with it. My sister in law has already had a few break downs over deaths in her family. I don't believe in anything but yet I can handle it better than my dub relatives because I have come to terms with my own mortality.
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My Fathers Memorial Service
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I have another question, what is the borgs position on what they think is appropriate for handling a person’s ashes? I want to do something with my dad ashes out of respect, even though I believe that the ashes are just that ashes and have no spirit or ghosts attached to them. I just want to do something out of respect but it seems like the other dub family members don't want to do anything.
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WTF? Tried Jehovahs Witnesses to delete Raymond from Wikipeda a couple minutes ago?
by Dold Agenda ini was just googling jehovas and this appears in the list at wikipedia abou raymond franz.. *theinformationon this page was removed by responsible members of the legal coorporation of jehovah's witnesses,watchtower bible and tract society of new york,inc for the sole purpose that this page spread false information about a former member of jehovah's witnesses.the authors of the page are liable and did not remain neutral with regards to the information presented.we request you write a written apology to us..
wtf!?.
apperently that didint work out.. (cur | prev)17:32, 29 january 2013 titodutta(talk | contribs) m.
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William Penwell
I just read it and it looks like it is all factual, so whats the problem? Big brther just doesn't want any truth that maybe against their organization out there. Too bad it wasn't still the middle ages.
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Newbies: Any Feedback on the "New Light" Regarding GB?
by daringhart13 inthe newbies are pooring in....... curious.......can any of you new folks confirm the sentiment of the publishers regarding the new light that the governing body is the faithful and discreet slave?
has anyone even noticed??
what's the word on the street?.
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William Penwell
I was not around in 1914 but was there in 1975 and seen the hype build up before 1975 that the new system was to come before that year. They now deny that but as someone that lived through it I can say they did point to 1975 as a marked year. Yet the RF dub, even those that lived through it say that was not true. The RF dub will buy any spin the WTBTS puts on anything.
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Sickening Dilemma
by ItsMyLife ini would like to have your opinions on what i should do about a situation please.. i have recently discovered that a 'brother' in the congregation (which i no longer attend) is a child molester.
i've seen documentation from his psychiatrist dated a few years ago, stating that he doesn't feel that this person is likely to offend again.
the 'brother' has said to the elders at some point that he has it under control but cannot be 100% sure it won't happen again.
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William Penwell
Sounds like the elders are again giving professional advice that they have no business doing that in the first place. Be very careful how you approach this as you are between a rock and a hard place on this one and are opening yourself up to libel action.